Signal stat 900 wiring, who can

[swade41]

Who can read the fine print ? I swaped out the signal stat 400 for the 900 the wires are there but cut. What does "pilot " wire and "load" wire do ?
I've got 5 out of the eight figured out but the yellow (load) and blue(pilot) both go to a flasher then a power source. My fuse box has seperate flashers and mounting points for signals and hazards. Which is which ?
In the following link the upper diagram has 8 wires like i have but i can't make out where the red with green stripe wire goes or the yellow and blue ones.
Who can read this thing and point me in the right direction ?
the red with green wire is the one third to the right from the upper left in the picture.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Tech/SignalWiring.html

[62rambler]

Swade looks like the red/green wire goes to the parking light side of the headlight switch. And the yellow and blue wires go to the relay?

[Reverend Rust]

Originally Posted by swade41

Who can read the fine print ? I swaped out the signal stat 400 for the 900 the wires are there but cut. What does "pilot " wire and "load" wire do ?
I've got 5 out of the eight figured out but the yellow (load) and blue(pilot) both go to a flasher then a power source. My fuse box has seperate flashers and mounting points for signals and hazards. Which is which ?
In the following link the upper diagram has 8 wires like i have but i can't make out where the red with green stripe wire goes or the yellow and blue ones.
Who can read this thing and point me in the right direction ?
the red with green wire is the one third to the right from the upper left in the picture.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Tech/SignalWiring.html

The "signal" flasher is the one you are now working on. The "hazard" is the 4 way flasher. Leave it for later.

My guess is "pilot" lights up the idiot light in the signal switch and "load" supplies power to your turn signals. The "load" would be switched on and off by the flasher. The"pilot" appears to tap into the unswitched power coming to the flasher from the fuse. The "load" goes thru the flasher, to flash it off and on.

The "red/green" wire goes to the headlight switch. It attaches to the terminal that turns on the parking lights.

If you have the 900 model shouldn't you scroll down to the 900 diagram?

By the way you can go nuts after a while, figuring out wiring. I sense this is happening here. Best thing to do is leave it for a while. Come back after a good night's sleep and it will all look simpler.

[swade41]

Originally Posted by Reverend Rust

If you have the 900 model shouldn't you scroll down to the 900 diagram?

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Well......mine looks exactly like the one in the real picture of the 900 and has 900 cast into the body but......it has 8 wires. The diagram for the 900 shows 7 wires, the one for the 800 has 8 wires like mine.
My fuse box has a connection for flashers,another for hazards and then one for power to the turn signal. I just need to know if the yellow will be the power or the blue and which to use for what flasher.
I'm going to run all the other wires except those three, I just don't know what pilot and load mean in relation to the function.

[Reverend Rust]

Originally Posted by swade41

Well......mine looks exactly like the one in the real picture of the 900 and has 900 cast into the body but......it has 8 wires. The diagram for the 900 shows 7 wires, the one for the 800 has 8 wires like mine.
My fuse box has a connection for flashers,another for hazards and then one for power to the turn signal. I just need to know if the yellow will be the power or the blue and which to use for what flasher.
I'm going to run all the other wires except those three, I just don't know what pilot and load mean in relation to the function.

Didn't we just go over that?

Load means what it sounds like. Power to feed to the load, or turn signal bulbs. Pilot is like a pilot light or the idiot light on the turn signal switch.

What do you mean connection? Do you mean there is a wire terminal or do you mean the flasher plugs into the fuse box? In either case, the hazard is for the 4 way flashers, the flasher is the signal flasher, and the power would be a separate power if you use a relay.In your case you would use the one with the highest amperage.

In short, the power goes to the flasher unit then to the yellow wire. The blue wire goes direct to the power where it attaches to the flasher unit.

To break it down even simpler:

Take the wire that feeds power to the flasher. At the end, attach a terminal and while you are at it, attach the blue wire. Plug the terminal into the input side of the flasher unit.

Attach a terminal to the yellow wire. Plug it into the output side of the flasher unit.

[swade41]

Rev, your funny sometimes
My painless fuse panel has 3 seperate terminal to connect wires to. The instructions say to wire turnsignal power wire to turnsignal B+ terminal, wire your flasher wire to flasher terminal and wire your hazard wire to hazard terminal all on the fuse panel.
Now.....
The turn signal switch has a blue wire and a yellow wire that go into a supplied flasher box and flasher. On the other side of the flasher box there is one wire coming out that is susposed to go to a power supply.
I don't have the flasher box for the turn signal, it was cut off. That leaves me with two wires from the turn signal switch that need to go to three locations on the fuse panel.
We've got to be on the same page now..........I hope

[Reverend Rust]

Originally Posted by swade41

Rev, your funny sometimes
My painless fuse panel has 3 seperate terminal to connect wires to. The instructions say to wire turnsignal power wire to turnsignal B+ terminal, wire your flasher wire to flasher terminal and wire your hazard wire to hazard terminal all on the fuse panel.
Now.....
The turn signal switch has a blue wire and a yellow wire that go into a supplied flasher box and flasher. On the other side of the flasher box there is one wire coming out that is susposed to go to a power supply.
I don't have the flasher box for the turn signal, it was cut off. That leaves me with two wires from the turn signal switch that need to go to three locations on the fuse panel.
We've got to be on the same page now..........I hope

I'm not trying to be funny I assure you. Not this time anyway. I know how frustrating it can be when you aren't getting something.

Now, one more time. Your turn signal switch has a light at the end of the lever. Or possibly a light on the body of the switch. It doesn't matter where it is, this is what they call the "Pilot Light". I call it the Idiot Light, because it functions like the idiot light on your car's dash. Is that clear?

The "Pilot Light" is the blue wire.

Now. You are going to have to get a flasher unit from somewhere. They sell them at parts stores. It should have 2 terminals on it. One for the power to come in, one for it to go out.

The wire from the fuse panel goes to the flasher "in" terminal and also the blue wire. In other words both the blue wire and the flasher get their power from the same wire.

The other side of the flasher connects to the yellow wire.

Do you know which of the fuse panel wires is which? You may have to check your wiring diagram or test them with a test light. If one is on when the headlights or parking lights are on, that is the one that goes to the flasher and the blue wire. If one is on only on when the parking lights are on that goes to the wire with the red/green tracer.

I hope this is clear. If you still don't get it let me know, I can simplify it farther if necessary.

[swade41]

Allright Rev I give up, we are just not seeing the same thing here. I'm not talking about the red with green stripe wire anymore, we figured that one out.
What I'm saying is my fues box has three outlets to the turn signal switch, one for flasher, one for hazard and one for power.
The turn signal ony has two inlets, one yellow the other blue.

[Reverend Rust]

Originally Posted by swade41

Allright Rev I give up, we are just not seeing the same thing here. I'm not talking about the red with green stripe wire anymore, we figured that one out.
What I'm saying is my fues box has three outlets to the turn signal switch, one for flasher, one for hazard and one for power.
The turn signal ony has two inlets, one yellow the other blue.

Do you have a test light? OK good. Test the outlets for turn signal switch and flasher. Find out if they are on all the time, on only when the key is on, or what.

You are looking for an outlet that is on when the key is on.

When you find an outlet that is on when the key is on, connect it to the flasher and also to the blue wire.

Yes that's right, connect those 2 things to 1 wire.

Now take the yellow wire and connect it to the other side of the flasher.

There you are done.

Now what about the other outlets? Forget it you don't need them.

[swade41]

Tonight is the first night I got to mess with the turn signals and here are the results.
I brought a wire from the flasher part of the fuse box to the yellow(load) wire on the signal switch. The turn signals and hazards worked but nothing on the lights on the signal switch.
I then wired the blue(pilot) wire together with the yellow and the indicators on the signal switch worked. The only problem I see is that the red hazard light on the signal switch glows dim all the time. Now when you turn on the hazards it lights up very bright and flashes with the hazards.
The red with green stripe wire that said it went to the parking light terminal of the light switch I didn't hook up at all...lol
So does the hazard light always glow dim red on these things ?